2011-06-15

Poll: Should I Switch away from Linux Mint?

For over two years, Linux Mint has served me quite well. It's been incredibly easy to use and learn and just a pleasure to work with. It comes with the software I need (and really easy ways to get more stuff too), it's polished, it has a beautiful interface, and it's generally very stable. That said, I've been having a few issues with it lately. One regards Adobe Flash and the fact that I'm on a 64-bit system: until a couple months ago, I wasn't able to watch Hulu at all, and I'm still not able to use AV by AIM, which requires an up-to-date fully functional Adobe Flash plugin. The AV by AIM thing may seem a bit trivial, except that I need to actively look for alternatives to Skype so that if and when Microsoft decides to end Skype support for Linux, I won't be left floundering all of a sudden. In addition, I still sometimes have issues of Compiz removing my titlebars upon startup, the theme not loading properly on startup, Conky overlapping with other windows, and some panel applets disappearing/crashing from time to time. Sure, many of these things are the results of my own tinkering with the system, but it's still annoying to deal with those issues, as I would expect those breakages to not occur at all. And finally, I guess at this point, I just want something new and fresh to take my breath away again.

At the same time, readers of this blog know that I'm also enamored with #!. It's stable, fast, and quite lightweight, yet in almost all respects it's just as easy to use as Linux Mint. Other things in its favor are using Openbox instead of Compiz (meaning I get to play with cool transparency effects without worrying about titlebars disappearing), having a good way to upgrade packages and the system as it's based on Debian (pointing the package manager to new repositories and then upgrading usually works on Debian but not on Ubuntu), and having a working Adobe Flash plugin that lets me use Hulu and AV by AIM out-of-the-box even in the 64-bit version. The biggest downside will be the lack of niceties like the Linux Mint menu and tools along with the corresponding need to do some more manual configuration.

Other options include Pinguy OS 11.04 and Linux Mint 11 "Katya" GNOME, which I know work well with Hulu and AV by AIM but which won't be supported for as long.
So what should I do? Should I stick with my tried-and-true, familiar Linux Mint 9 LTS "Isadora" GNOME? Or should I switch to #! 10 "Statler"? Or should I switch to one of the other alternatives I listed? Or should I switch to another distribution entirely? (Please note that I'm trying to minimize manual configuration; I'm trying to get stuff done on my computer, after all. Therefore, no Gentoo/Slackware/Arch/et cetera for me, but derivatives may be welcome. Also, Microsoft Windows and Apple's Mac OS X are not welcomed as suggestions. I'm not going back to Microsoft Windows, and I'm not buying an Apple product.) Please let me know in the comments!

43 comments:

  1. Sabayon is very polished, give it a shot. Its essentially the ubuntu of gentoo before 11.04 and with great driver support. Also, windows isnt dropping skype for linux. They donate thousands of dollars each year to companies like novell for linux support. Why? Linux can never fill the niche windows has occupied with commercialized software (gaming, scientific tools, programming tools, etc). In more ways than this alone, microsoft is a legit company. Their stuff works on nearly 95% of the world's pc's, and yous should give them credit for that.

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  2. in general, i agree with anonymous's assessment of microsoft software. however, a lot of scientific software is *only* written for linux, while most scientific software have linux versions, so its a good reason not to switch platforms. use the tool that meets your needs! with that said, i would recommend you install ubuntu core and add which ever d.e. you like best. also, unity sucks; i hate it.

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  3. @Anonymous: I've tried Sabayon before several times, and my relationship is love-meh (not quite love-hate), because I love its implementation of KDE and its included software and its rolling-release nature, but it has crashed on me before and Entropy has been ridiculously slow. That said, I hear Sabayon 6.0 is coming out very soon and that's supposed to rectify a lot of those issues. Also, there are multiple issues I have with your comment regarding Microsoft. For one, the fact that Microsoft dropped Skype support for Asterisk just days after committing to keep support on all existing platforms means that I'm quite wary of its commitments. To be clear, I'm sticking with Skype until that happens if it happens, but if it does happen, I want to have an alternative readily at hand as opposed to scrambling to find something at the last minute. Also, there are a whole bunch of professional scientific and programming tools written specifically for Linux that isn't available on Microsoft Windows, so that part's gone. Regarding gaming and hardware compatibility, that can be blamed on Microsoft's near-monopoly in the desktop OS market, which was developed in the mid-1990s. Of course Microsoft Windows tends to play nicely with almost all hardware out there, because almost all desktop computer hardware out there is built for use with Microsoft Windows! (And what does any of that have to do with Novell and Microsoft? Regarding that, the issue is that as Novell has licensed many of Microsoft's patents, Microsoft's claims of Linux infringing on its patents is given way more legitimacy than is actually true.)
    @somethingquarky: In any case, my software needs are pretty limited. I mean, I already know what software I would be using, so software isn't the issue; it's more about how well the distribution works and how well I can work with it. I suppose using a minimal Ubuntu installation would work well, but then I have to trade off between proven stability & a long support period but somewhat outdated software and new software but slightly lesser stability & a shorter support period. Plus, in that case I may as well just install Linux Mint 11 "Katya" GNOME. Also, I do generally agree with your assessment of Unity.
    Thanks for the comments!

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  4. There's only one choice. openSUSE 11.4. Its absolutely amazing. And the community support is second to none - true top-flight professionals who help you every step of the way.

    Make the switch - you won't be sorry.

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  5. Its like someone with training wheels on their bicycle asking if they should just ride free.

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  6. I tested Linux Mint "Katya" Gnome version and it seems to work well. Since you have long been working with Linux Mint, you can switch to the new release. Switching to a new distro might require some time to learn new interface/tools. For me myself, I've been a long user of Fedora and Fedora is treating me quite well.

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  7. try Elementary OS?

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  8. Recently I have been testing the 64 bit version of the newly released Mageia 1 distro. So far I must say I am very impressed with it, in fact I have not been able to find a single thing that either just works like Linux Mint11 or works with a very minimal amount of installation / configuring. It's well worth a look

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  9. "I'm trying to get stuff done on my computer" And Compiz is the way to do it? I doubt it. As you wrote, you need candies, not system for work.

    For person who really works, and don't play with toys anymore, I would suggest openSUSE 11.4. It is so-so distro, but it is the best pick. I don't consider million of options, only big players, which has something to offer:

    * Scientific Linux/CentOS -- if something is broken you cannot even report it, no rolling release distro

    * Debian -- even installer is broken and has limited options, no rolling release, BTS is distaster (via email or dedicated program, which means via email)

    * Slackware -- I am just a user, I won't sacrifice myself for computer system

    * LMDE -- not enough human powers (!), installer is broken as in Debian, lack of basic features (measuring for modern times)

    * Fedora -- I don't feel like guinea pig

    * Ubuntu -- there is zero concern of reliability, maturity, it hops from one idea to another, wild ride if computing is done purely for fun, no-go for anything serious

    * Mandriva -- hit iceberg 2 times, still floating, good luck with that

    * Arch Linux -- security is obviously not a serious concern for Arch, rolling release is treated as forced upgrading

    * openSUSE -- not enough human powers to really improve this distro, but installer is the best among others, rolling release and yet such applications as KDE3 are still kept in the MAIN repository (this tells me a lot about atitude towards "oh, hey this program has 0.0.0.04 increment!"), foggy future though (Novell is sold)

    Unfortunately there is NO good, reliable, oriented on quality distribution. One can only pick the least broken. IMHO it is openSUSE.

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  10. Don't switch. After trying a lot of distro's there is no need to leave Linux Mint behind imho. The reason? Other distro's have issues as well because there is no silver bullet. Linux Mint comes closest to perfection, so file bug reports there and ask questions on their forums.

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  11. who gives a Toss... Just use whatever the fuk works for you... who cares what peoples opinions are

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  12. you could upgrade your driver for flash to work. it worked for me and no problems whatsoever, the earlier versions of my ati driver were buggy and made my system go bonkers and i upgraded it several times as the releases came out and today it works better than ever.

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  13. Idoits of the linux world!!! If you dont want technical hassles use Ultimate Edition.
    Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I don't know how such a distro is being unnoticed by everyone.

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  14. Sabayon ? Hey, how come nobody mentioned Arch yet, or, even better, download the Linux From Scratch PDF and just make your own !!

    No, seriously, all these are great distributions, I'm a big fan of Arch myself, but to recommend them to a Mint user seems kind of bold ...

    The obvious step would be moving on to Mint 11 Katya or Pinguy, maybe you should try out these two and see what you like better. But whatever you do, install 32 Bit, 64 Bit always has issues with non- open programs (Flash just being the most famous example of many)

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  15. Why pick only one distro? Multi-boot!

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  16. What's wrong with the exclamation marks at this site? (!)

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  17. you can give PCLinuxOS a try

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  18. Oh come now, Slackware is not the great tribulation you people are making it out to be.

    Installing Slackware is about as simple to use as those old DOS Setup programs, the only part that isn't hooked into it is partitioning, but if you use cfdisk for that you'll be fine, as it's command line graphical. Otherwise you just go step by step as it prompts you through the installer which is really very simple and easy to use.

    it'll tell you to remove the disk and then you restart, log in as root do an adduser to create your user account then you can su over to your newly created account startx and BAM! you can work from inside the DE of your choice that you selected by default rather than the command line if you really want to. Edit the init scripts to go to run level 4 instead of 3 if you want a graphical login

    Now you've got two package managers available to you, slackpkg which updates Core stuff(IE the stuff shipping on your DVD) and then you can download sbopkg which handles downloading compiling, packaging, and then installing software available from Slackbuilds.org (Note you have to do dependency handling yourself but you can queue the software and it's actually a good thing) I'll admit we may not have as much software available in those repositories as Debian or SUSE, however my point is merely to show that it's really not some tortuous hell-pit that we submit ourselves to. There is in fact a reason that most of the people who Slack don't come back.

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  19. Stay with Mint. I've tried Pinguy andothers and Mint just seems to work better.

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  20. anybody tried Mepis ?

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  21. Re Slackware: I Slacked & came back. I was dead serious & even compiled my own low latency kernels. What killed it in the end was getting into video.

    Managing all those dependencies was a nightmare. With a debian based distro you can be up and running in an evening with no scouring for packages or compiling from source. I could have most of what I need installed in Ubuntu in the time it would take me to compile wine.

    I have stuck with Ubuntu LTS right from the first one they did. I don't always like the defaults but you can make it want you want without too much pain. LTS means you are not changing every six months/ year which suits me.

    I want to stop tweaking my system & do stuff & for me this has worked.

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  22. I'm an IT consultant working 100% with GNU/Linux since 2001. I install Linux-based networks (servers and clients) for town halls, schools, public libraries and the likes. I also do some Linux training, and I'm quite proficient on most major - and some minor - distributions. I recently came back to Slackware, which was my first Linux distro back in 2001. There are a few reasons for that. 1) Slackware doesn't reinvent the wheel every six months like every other distro currently does. Take a peek at the init system of Fedora, openSUSE, Ubuntu and the likes. It's an unhealthy mix of SystemV, Upstart and systemd. Now compare that to Slackware's boot scripts: clean and well organized since 1993. 2) Healthy release cycle: Slackware releases roughly one new version in a year, which suits professional users well. Plus, versions back to 8.0 (that's ten years old!) are still supported for bug fixes. 3) Slackware *never* chokes on exotic hardware, because I can always configure it by hand. Now, install Fedora 15 or openSUSE 11.4 on machines with slightly older NVidia cards - which happens all the time in my day to day work - and appreciate the mess. 4) If I need a package not included in the distribution, there's SlackBuilds.org, but more often than not, I just quickly write a compilation script myself. Never seen an application that doesn't build on Slackware. Conclusion: if you're not a lamer for RTFM and got some basic UNIX skills, Slackware is my favourite choice, and the distribution I'd recommend to everyone. Plus, it's a lot of fun.

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  23. You have three options that make this far less of a problem than you seem to think it is. The first is Linux Mint Katya, the second is PinguyOs11-04 which is even more easy to use than LinuxMint ( and includes Mint-Menu) and the last is Ultimate Edition. these are recommended for the following reasons, Stability,user friendliness,design and build quality and the marvellous Forums.It seems to me you want a distro that works out of the box and gives you no unpleasant surprises. Fot that reason I would avoid Sabayon and Tresquill which depending on whether you are dual-booting could seriously screw up your MBR. If you are techie enough to know what you are doing that,of course, wouldn't happen. I am simply pointing out that both distros are French and don't follow a straight-forward install process. In fact, after installing Tresquill on an External Hard Disk it managed to wipe-out the M.B.R. on my native hard disk when it wasn't even installed there. That's a neat trick,isn't it?If you don't have any Windows OS why not install all three and multi-boot?The three mentioned work quite happily alongside each other.Either download or order the disks from LinuxCD.org or somewhere similar. I always order the disks as it avoids corrupted downloads. Any of these three will work fine on their own.Good Luck.

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  24. If you are generally happy with linux Mint and its tools then the obvious thing to do would seem to be to stick with one of the Mint flavours.

    I don't understand why anyone would want a non-rolling release on a personal desktop machine (servers and corporate environments obviously have different requirements based around the needs of tech support) so I'd suggest Linux Mint Debian Edition XFCE. If you don't like XFCE you can easily install lxde or just straight openbox and then purge whatever bits of xfce you don't want to recover some space.

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  25. I use Crunchbang Statler (the Xfce edition) and I LOVE IT and very highly recommend it. PCLinuxOS is another great distro I can highly recommend, too.

    And to whoever suggested SuSE -- absolutely positively NO WAY IN THIS WORLD after they sold out to Micro$haft in November of 2006. No way, no how, and I will NEVER consider them again -- EVER.

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  26. I am using LinuxMint Debian edition (xfce) and aptosid (also xfce). LMDE installed fine. Don't know what that one poster meant by installer being broken. Aptosid installed fine also. I use it because I like to be on the bleeding edge.
    With linuxmint, doing a dist-upgrade gets you the latest and greatest without having to do a complete new install. I have never had a problem doing a dist-upgrade.

    But to each his own. If you have the itch to switch, you have a lot of options.

    Glenn

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  27. is there some frightening clown standing between you and debian and blocking your way xD
    i mean i see you're dancing around debian with all these spins mentioned here...

    as for arch, it's good if you're in kindergarten and the security of your computer and data on it doesn't matter at all. for us grown-ups a distro with unsigned packages is unacceptable.

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  28. Re: Mepis....
    This is a SimplyMepis machine. I have yet to find anything I would replace it with.
    Sabayon and Vector are very good too.And I really like Knoppix too...But, for me on this and on several other no longer here PC's, SimplyMepis "just works" and I'm keeping it.

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  29. @macias: original anon here. I agree the installer for openSUSE is great, but 11 was anything but polished (gnome version at least). Cruddy windowing, failing monitor support, terrible flash integration--just for starters. However, the OS itself is nice, and YaST is sweet too.

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  30. As a Mint user who experiments occasionally with other versions, I have several recommendations:

    Mepis
    Bodhi
    ZevenOS
    DreamLinux
    Chakra
    Debian Test (which anyone else would have called Stable)

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  31. Wow, this is a huge number of comments! I'll try to go through them in chunks.
    @Andy Prough: Please do check out my review of openSUSE 11.4 and leave comments. I liked it a lot, and I do appreciate the essentially professional-grade nature of the distribution, as it is closely related to Novell SLED. My only reservations have to do with the slowness of YaST2 and the fact that a lot of reviews of versions 11.3 and 11.4 have said that the installation can often be problematic/prone to failure. I don't know how true those accusations are, but they are a little troubling to read.
    @Thomas Garman: Admittedly, I had this thought and wrote this post on a bit of a whim, but did you read the post and the things I suggested?
    @Aks: I've tried out Linux Mint 11 "Katya" as well, and frankly, it doesn't impress me quite enough to make me want to switch. Plus, Linux Mint 9 LTS "Isadora" is and will be supported for longer. I would say that I'd only switch if and when Skype support is dropped and if Adobe Flash suddenly breaks on me.
    @Anonymous 1: I've tried Elementary OS 1.0 (or 0.1?), and while I liked it a lot, I don't see any compelling reason to choose it over Linux Mint, Pinguy OS, or #!. That said, I am eagerly anticipating being able to test the new version, which is supposed to have a totally redesigned interface and core applications rebuilt from the ground-up.
    @Bevan: I did say to another commenter in a post long ago that I would be willing to try out Mageia when it gets released. Unfortunately, I got caught up with other things, but maybe what I'll do is compare it to Mandriva and/or PCLinuxOS 2011.
    @macias: For the record, I do like my eye-candy, but I will say that Compiz has also improved my productivity quite a bit with things like assigning application types to specific workspaces and the Microsoft Windows 7-style taskbar window previews; so no, Compiz isn't just about eye-candy. Also, I noticed that you curiously left out Ubuntu-based Linux Mint; it tends to not go on the wild roller-coaster rides that you accuse Ubuntu of doing. Finally, what exactly do you mean by "human powers"? I'm a bit confused by that.
    @Anonymous 2: As I think about it more, I'm coming to the same conclusion too.

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  32. @Anonymous 3: I would appreciate it if you toned down the language a little. Sure, foul language doesn't harm anyone per se (except for younger children, maybe), but cleaning it up does make the Internet a nicer place. That aside, I've come to the same conclusion as well.
    @Anonymous 4: I'm not sure the driver is the issue, because Hulu works fine for me now, after installing and using a Mozilla Firefox extension to find and install the latest version of Adobe Flash for 64-bit Linux systems. Or are we talking about different things entirely?
    @p. alan scott: As I said to another commenter, please do tone down the language. That aside, from the reviews I've read of Ultimate Edition, aside from the whole load of extra installed software, it doesn't seem to offer much over regular Ubuntu (pre-Unity), and it seems to be a bit of an eyesore in terms of the interface (though I suppose that could be changed easily).
    @Anonymous 5: I've heard that Sabayon 6.0 is coming out soon, and I'd like to try that when it does come out. That said, I have tried out previous versions of Sabayon, and while they seem nice to use, I've had too many crashes with them, and Entropy has been too slow. (Apparently those problems are to be fixed in Sabayon 6.0.) Also, with regard to 32-bit, the issue is that I have 4 GB of RAM, and I'd like all of that to be available to the OS; I've heard of solutions like the PAE kernel, but to be honest, I'm hesitant to change something as fundamental as the kernel (though I'm not totally resistant to it).
    @Anonymous 6: I could flip that around and ask, why should I multi-boot when I can have the opportunity of doing everything I want to do in one distribution?
    @Anonymous 7: I'm not really sure! (Yes, I did that on purpose.)
    @Anonymous 8: I did try PCLinuxOS 2010.7 on my old computer, and I found it to be somewhat slow and unstable. I would certainly like to try and review version 2011, whenever that comes out.

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  33. @Anonymous 9: If you read my previous review of Slackware, you'll see that I'm pretty clearly not cut out to deal with it. Sure, the installation is a cinch, but it's the post-installation configuration that I feel would give me the most trouble (things like configuring the network, et cetera).
    @Bernie's Art: I actually kind of liked Pinguy OS 11.04 better than Linux Mint 11 "Katya" GNOME, but in any case, I'll probably end up waiting for Linux Mint 13 LTS "M[...]a" or (if that doesn't happen and Linux Mint moves away from Ubuntu entirely) the most recent snapshot of Debian-based Linux Mint in early 2013 (when support for Linux Mint 9 LTS "Isadora" ends).
    @Anonymous 10: Yes, I have reviewed SimplyMEPIS 11.0 here, and I have found that it doesn't boot properly without some specific boot parameters, and its default settings (like not allowing for installation of packages in the live session) are a bit frustrating at times. It's OK, but I wouldn't use it on a daily basis.
    @Anonymous 11: Those are basically my requirements too (though I'm scared of compiling a kernel myself). Hopefully I wouldn't have to install too much software after the first few days of configuration, but in any case I feel like manual dependency installation would be annoying; I really don't see any benefits if those dependencies are required for desired programs to work anyway.
    @Microlinux: The thing is, my computer's hardware isn't exactly old or exotic, so I don't think there would be a huge benefit for me to compile software perfectly tailored to my machine. Plus, I just want to use the OS, not endlessly tinker with it, though I certainly do appreciate your skills and abilities regarding Slackware.
    @Anonymous 12: What I'll probably end up doing is sticking with what I have until either Linux Mint 13 LTS "M[...]a" is released or until Linux Mint 9 LTS "Isadora" reaches the end of its life, at which point I'll start using Debian-based Linux Mint GNOME. Also, what's Tresquill? I've heard of Trisquel, but not Tresquill.
    @T_Beermonster: I think the issue with some rolling-release distributions is that sometimes super-new packages cause breakages unintentionally in ways that the developers/maintainers can't always foresee. It's something the Linux Mint developers warn of themselves regarding the Debian-based edition.

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  34. @Anonymous 13: I'm curious about the Xfce edition of #!, and I'd like to see how that's different for the Openbox edition. Also, for one, there's no need to call Microsoft silly names (despite how much I dislike Microsoft's business practices), and for another, please do note the openSUSE is different and independent from Novell SLED.
    @Anonymous 14: Unfortunately, I haven't had much success with aptosid, but I have really liked Debian-based Linux Mint. If Linux Mint moves away from Ubuntu completely before Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "P[...] P[...]" is released, I'll probably then switch to Debian-based Linux Mint. Hopefully any kinks that might be remaining will have been ironed out.
    @istok: It's not a frightening clown. :D It's just that I'm lazy and would like to do as little configuration as possible. Sure, the configuration on Debian isn't hard, but I'd still have to do it. (So I'm really lazy. Sue m...no, don't sue me. I'm still a poor college student.) Also, while the issue of unsigned packages on Arch does trouble me, what does that have to do with kindergarten? (On a side note, I'd be hard-pressed to find a kindergarten-age child who could use Arch.)
    @Anonymous 15, 16: Unfortunately, for me, SimplyMEPIS didn't "just work". I've written reviews of version 11.0 on this site, so please do check those out.
    @Anonymous 17: Well, I was quite pleased with the live session of version 11.4 KDE. That said, reports of installation failures do concern me, and I've always found YaST2 to be too slow.
    @Anonymous 18: I'll certainly keep all those in mind!
    Thanks for all the comments!

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  35. I can appreciate the uncertainty regarding a bleeding edge rolling release (I choose to run aptosid, it does have moderately frequent small breakages - but I knew that when I chose it). However the likelihood of breakages is a function of the package repositories, aptosid is based on sid, debian unstable - it sometimes (like sid) breaks (less often than you may imagine and often only a single package at a time). Arch is based as close to upstream as possible - it sometimes breaks. Fedora Rawhide and Opensuse Factory also stick to the bleeding edge (and are basically dev releases) and break.
    LMDE is based on debian testing (which is as stable as anyone but a debian package maintainer could demand), Slackware current is likewise based on stable packages, as is opensuse Tumbleweed. With these the most likely breakages you see are to do with proprietary graphics drivers having to be rebuilt/installed whenever X or the kernel are upgraded - mostly just a matter of remembering.
    You could I suppose maintain a rolling debian stable (or even oldstable) but that would be a bit silly.

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  36. The 64bit version of flash is way out of date and has serious security holes. Adobe have promised a new version later this year, but until then it is stuck in 2010. The Firefox extension cannot get an update that does not exist. I would remove it and go down the path of running the 32bit version (constantly updated) and nspluginwrapper. Once it is running you cannot tell the difference. I run Gnome3 shell on 64bit Ubuntu Natty with an Nvidia G210 and can run YouTube videos full screen without any jerkiness.

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  37. @T_Beermonster: Fair enough.
    @Greg: OK, but then should I be running the 32-bit version of Adobe Flash or the 32-bit version of Mozilla Firefox? I suppose the latter is pretty simple, but I've read that the former is quite complicated (at least in reverse), so I'd love to know how it's done.
    Thanks for the comments!

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  38. The reason I suggest multi-booting (or dual-booting) is because you obviously love Mint but you're interested in other distros. It doesn't have to be either/or. Why get rid of a distro you really like just to try something else? Why limit yourself to one distro when there might be things about another distro that you really like? Maybe you can do everything you want with Linux Mint -- but one thing you can't do if it's the only distro on your system is compare it head to head with another distro over the long term.

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  39. Thanks for your answer, PV. But there are a few misunderstanding, so let me rephrase some things differently. 1) I'm using Slackware precisely to avoid the hassle of tinkering with a broken system/installer all the time. Slackware's basic UNIX tools *always* work, and I don't have to jump through burning loops to, say, configure Software RAID 1 or some not so recent video card. 2) Slackware only has a limited set of core packages, but these packages are managed with great care. In my post above, I just meant that if an application or a lib is missing, I can always compile it in a snap, using the build scripts from slackbuilds.org. After all, that's what "open source" is about: grab the source and build it. Let me add that until recently, I've mostly been using CentOS for the job (that's the other "perfect" enterprise class distro around), but due to their logistic troubles recently, I switched back to Slackware.

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  40. @PV Run the 64bit browser and install the 32bit flash. In Mint you should be able to uninstall the flash you are using, remove the Firfox extension, then from Synaptic install flash from the Ubuntu repositories and it will be the 32bit version with nspluginwrapper. The package is call flashplugin-installer. It will load ia32-libs and maybe some other stuff. Once working it is seamless. If you run a 32bit system with Nvidia graphics and Nvidia drivers you also get hardware accelerated flash.

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  41. @Microlinux: Original anon here again. I agree with your mentality, that's how you do it when you're hardcore. Legit. Maybe (hopefully) I can make the switch from Sabayon to Slackware later on this summer.

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  42. @Anonymous: I guess that's true, but right now, as I see it, there's nothing that another distribution has (that Linux Mint may or may not have) that would compel me to actually do a multi-boot setup.
    @Microlinux: I see what you're saying from a technical sense. However, I'd like to clarify that my level of technical expertise is such that I'm scared of compiling things aside from basic "Hello world"-level C/C++ programs i.e. I'm basically a Linux enthusiast whose technical proficiency is only marginally more than that of an average user.
    @Greg: I think I've seen that before. Anyway, Hulu works for me, and hopefully I won't have to start using AV by AIM before I upgrade/switch from this version of Linux Mint.
    Thanks for the comments!

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